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Post  Serras-Kai on Mon May 11, 2009 10:19 pm


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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  SurgePox on Mon May 11, 2009 10:25 pm

I've always held though Viewtiful Joe would have been epic, but he isn't all that well known or great enough that i would doubt he would ever be included.
still, the 6 machine would have made for an epic FS.

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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  Serras-Kai on Mon May 11, 2009 10:26 pm

SurgePox wrote:I've always held though Viewtiful Joe would have been epic, but he isn't all that well known or great enough that i would doubt he would ever be included.
still, the 6 machine would have made for an epic FS.
I'd never considered him.
He fits the bill rather well, though, doesn't he?

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Post  Relmitos on Tue May 12, 2009 12:31 am

Serras, you just have to bring up Roy in every single topic don't you? hehe, yes, I know, getting rid of him sucks so very much

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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  Avalanche on Tue May 12, 2009 5:56 am

How about a fire emblem character like Soren, Micaia, Sothe, Ephraim or Hector....A fire emblem character without swords should work too right? Nothing wrong with Roy (hell, my name is Roy) but along with Marth and Ike it feels a little like overkill.

Viewtiful Joe, Amaterasu and Kalas would be awesome too (one free internet for the one who knows Amaterasu and Kalas). A additional Metroid and Sonic character should work too. And what is up with making Waluigi a assist trophie....hasnt that guy been in pretty much every party game? Same goes for Baby Bowser.

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Post  xXkawai_baka_420Xx on Tue May 12, 2009 7:58 am

Good afternoon Gentlemen and welcome to an actual post I shall make in this thread.

Now, if you want a character in this new SSB. Give a reason why. And a good one. In fact, let's make a checklist.

- Is it a Nintendo character (Snake and Sonic are kinda Nintendo Characters. But they really aren't.)
- Is it popularly recognised by the Mass audience of this particular game
- Is it appropriate for the game environment
- What stage(s) shall accompany this character?
- Will it makes them the moneys.

Doesn't make sense for you? I'll try to expand
1. Obvious
2. Because it is USA friendly does not mean that it belongs in a Japanese environment, of which is their prime target audience. Really. Have a think about it.
3. Is it wearing clothes.
4. Obvious
5. Would a kid buy it because his role-model is in the game.

Seriously. Have a good think about what you would want, and then put it through my wonderful machine to test if it is viable. That is, if we do get another game.

Of course, some characters break some of the rules, but that can be bypassed.

Thanks for reading my brick.

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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  Blue Madness on Tue May 12, 2009 10:03 am

Okey dokey, let's go then...

Bowser Jr. / Shadow Mario
1. Is it a Nintendo character?
Yes.

2. Is it popularly recognised by the Mass audience of this particular game?
Yes.

3. Is it appropriate for the game environment?
Totally yes.

4. What stage(s) shall accompany this character?
None, the appropriate one is already in the game (Delfino Island).

5. Will it makes them the moneys.
Probably.


Ridley
1. Is it a Nintendo character?
Yes.

2. Is it popularly recognised by the Mass audience of this particular game?
HELL YEAH!

3. Is it appropriate for the game environment?
Totally yes.

4. What stage(s) shall accompany this character?
Ridley's Lair, maybe?

5. Will it makes them the moneys.
OF COURSE!!

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Post  SurgePox on Tue May 12, 2009 12:32 pm

Master Chief
- Is it a Nintendo character
no but dey could do a xbox crossover like they did 4 snake
- Is it popularly recognised by the Mass audience of this particular game
Yeah, every1 noes MASTER CHIEF
- Is it appropriate for the game environment
YAH he could use gunz and have da plasma sword, and he would be da best.
- What stage(s) shall accompany this character?
They could do a stage for every level, so he would have da most
- Will it makes them the moneys.
Yah HALO is da best game evar

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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  Blue Madness on Tue May 12, 2009 12:37 pm

awesome stuff here XDDD

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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  SurgePox on Tue May 12, 2009 12:38 pm

Geno
- Is it a Nintendo character
yeah, he was in one Nintendo game (Super Mario RPG), but the game was developed by Square Enix, he is is as Nintendo as Sonic or Snake.
- Is it popularly recognised by the Mass audience of this particular game
Not at all. besides the fanboys, no one even knows who Geno is.
- Is it appropriate for the game environment
yeah, he fits in well enough.
- What stage(s) shall accompany this character?
idk, I never played SMRPG.
- Will it makes them the moneys.
As much as Pit and Ice Climbers

As cool as he is, I would think that his third party status and relative obscurity prevents Geno from being much of a choice, despite how bad the fanboys want him, the majority just wouldn't care.


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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  Blue Madness on Tue May 12, 2009 12:41 pm

As far as I know, Square Enix holds some rights for Geno, so they would have to negotiate with them...

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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  SurgePox on Tue May 12, 2009 12:43 pm

Yeah, I updated my post to reflect that.

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Post  Smashy B on Tue May 12, 2009 3:58 pm

Avalanche91 wrote:How about a fire emblem character like Soren, Micaia, Sothe, Ephraim or Hector....A fire emblem character without swords should work too right? Nothing wrong with Roy (hell, my name is Roy) but along with Marth and Ike it feels a little like overkill.
I love you. I suggested haveing more FE characters, I think back on the first page, and even suggest the bolded ones. Maybe the latter 3, but I don't remember. Again, I would also like to see Lady Lyn for female representation. But I'm glad to see someone else on board with more FE characters.

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Re: Brawl: whats next?

Post  Fedaykin on Tue May 12, 2009 4:12 pm

The dog from Duckhunt

He is a true Nintendo character

EVERYBODY who played Duckhunt knows him

G-Dub is in,so why not he too?

Stage would be obviuos

About the money,I think everybody wants to punch into that snickering face.

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One last thing about Ridley:He has always been at least 2 times taller than Samus,shrinking him to let's say one head taller and letting them stand right next to each other,for me it would just look odd.I'd still love to play him,but it would bother me.Just my 2 cents.

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Post  Blue Madness on Tue May 12, 2009 4:13 pm

On the first Metroid, they're the same size. I'm aware of anything relating to Zero Mission anyone may want to say.
Also, if that's that much of a problem, have him on all fours.

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Post  Fedaykin on Tue May 12, 2009 4:16 pm

Ok,I didn't get that far in the original,I thought about Super Metroid and the Prime series

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Post  Smashy B on Tue May 12, 2009 5:43 pm

Krystal
- From StarFox, so yes.
- Easily recognized by Nintendo fans (and furries).
- Fox, Falco, and Wolf are in. And, to reiterate, the roster could use more female support.
- Dinosaur Planet or the Krazoa Temple from SF: Adventures.
- Yes.

Now, let's talk about a possible move set. Give her her staff from SF: Adventures. A moves could be mapped to jabs and swings that Fox preformed in the game and her specials could be:
Neutral B: Fire Blaster. Fire balls of fire at a fast speed but at a questionable rate, since it would probably be too good if you could fire them as fast as you can in the actual game. (Similar to the SF blasters)
Side B: Freeze Blast. Unleash an icy wave and be able to control trajectory. (Similar to Ice Climbers' Blizzard and Charizard's/Bowser's fire control.)
Up: B: Rocket Booster. Charge the staff and propel yourself in an upward direction. (Closest thing I can think of to comparison is Diddy's Rocket Barrel Blast.)
Down B: Ground Quake or Super Quake, depending on how long it's been charged. (Comparable to Ike's Eruption.)
Final Smash: I dunno. Just not a Land Master. Maybe a massive Krazoa Spirit takeover.

Also, Fire Blast and Freeze Blast could be interchangeable as to which button combo they'd be mapped to.

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Post  SurgePox on Tue May 12, 2009 6:08 pm

Actually hearing a moveset makes her sound like a much more feasible character. Personally, I think she should have the Landmaster as her FS Very Happy

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Post  Smashy B on Tue May 12, 2009 6:42 pm

SurgePox wrote:Actually hearing a moveset makes her sound like a much more feasible character. Personally, I think she should have the Landmaster as her FS Very Happy
But that'd be an over kill of Landmasters.
She could also call in a dino horde... maybe ride on the back of a full grown Tricky.

Also: Personally, I think Falco should have an arwing.

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Post  SurgePox on Tue May 12, 2009 6:44 pm

The only reason I don't like the landmaster is because of how overpowered it is.

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Post  Sanosukesama on Tue May 12, 2009 7:23 pm

To kind of spin off of the Fire Emblem ideas, I've always wondered how a Pegasus Knight would represent. It is a crucial class for the game series (there has been P.Knights in every FE I've played), they would hit up for more Female representation, and for a FS, off course it'd have to be the Triangle Attack. The size scaling would be an issue, like how big/small to make the character, but with some creative programming, it could work. The moveset could consist of striking lance moves & a javelin thrown for a projectile. I'd say Marcia, Elinica, Shiida, or Florina jump to my mind as icons of the Peg. Knights (if I'm missing some, I apologize). Hector would also be a strong second, I mean, the guy is BUILT for a smash game. He wields an axe (even larger in his promoted form) on top of being a warrior, with fighting capabilities, has a great background story, represented in 2 FE games (FE 6 & 7), and....his name is Hector. That's just.....hardcore.
For a second there, I was even going to go as far as to say throw in Mega Man & Simon Belmont, just to re-unite the Captain N squad. (Kid Icarus/Pit, Mega Man, Simon Belmont) That just might be going too far....heh ;P

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Post  Sonix! on Tue May 12, 2009 7:36 pm

Farina is far superior to Florina.

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Post  Smashy B on Tue May 12, 2009 7:37 pm

Sanosukesama wrote:To kind of spin off of the Fire Emblem ideas, I've always wondered how a Pegasus Knight would represent. It is a crucial class for the game series (there has been P.Knights in every FE I've played), they would hit up for more Female representation, and for a FS, off course it'd have to be the Triangle Attack. The size scaling would be an issue, like how big/small to make the character, but with some creative programming, it could work. The moveset could consist of striking lance moves & a javelin thrown for a projectile. I'd say Marcia, Elinica, Shiida, or Florina jump to my mind as icons of the Peg. Knights (if I'm missing some, I apologize). Hector would also be a strong second, I mean, the guy is BUILT for a smash game. He wields an axe (even larger in his promoted form) on top of being a warrior, with fighting capabilities, has a great background story, represented in 2 FE games (FE 6 & 7), and....his name is Hector. That's just.....hardcore.

As cool as having a character of the Pegasus class included, I don't see that feasible for multiple reasons. They would represent female fighters, but they aren't as known or even have a chance at being known outside of people who play Fire Emblem. And they aren't necessarily crucial, at least in half the games. You can play through with out using one of them, but same goes for any class, really.

The thing with Peg knights, is, as you said, scaling. It would be really hard to do, since the human characters have to be done to scale with the other FE characters and the Peg horses are huge. But here's a bigger problem... How would they edge grab? They would/could have a cool move set.

As for Hector, he'd be bad ass. Like Ike, but with an axe and maybe heavier.

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Farina comes in too late. Fiora is superior to Florina and Farina.

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Post  Serras-Kai on Tue May 12, 2009 7:52 pm

As a note, I only used the characters I got near or at the beginning of the game half the time, so Florina was pretty much the only Pegasus Knight I would use. I could see them bein included, but not as a playable character, but maybe as a part of an assisst trophy (that releases severeal generic units) a final smash, or a level hazard.

I would take Hector over Ike at any time.
But then, I'd take Lyn over Marth.

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Post  Smashy B on Tue May 12, 2009 8:19 pm

I really should be doing homework...

Lady Lyndis
- Hails from Fire Emblem. So Yes.
- One of the three main lords of FE7 and currently an assist trophy in Brawl
- Yes.
- Maybe a more specific stage or another generic Fire Emblem stage.
- Popular among Fire Emblem fans, and again, female representation.

Move set:
Neutral B: Bow and arrow. She gains use of a bow in FE after she promotes class. So she wields both a blade (Katana) and a bow, becoming an unmounted Nomad Trooper. Use would be similar to Link's.
Side B: A quick draw into slashes. Like combining Marth's and Ike's side B. Hold down B to charge and follow through with more slashes after (probably if the attack connects), or do normal Marth-like slash attacks.
OR Have an attack similar to her critical as a pre-promote lord. She can charge and dash, like Ike, but the be able to move up or down. Pre-promote Lord Critical.
Up B: A quick vertical dash and slash. Yeah, like Marth's, but the difference could come in the style, sweet spot, speed and exact displacement of the attack.
Down B: Counter. Self explanatory. Every FE character in Smash Bros. has had one so far, but her's would be different. She could have a double team-like illusion (ala Lucario) following with some combo slashes like when she criticals as a Blade lord. Blade Lord Critical.
Final Smash: Sol Katti Critical. It would start like Marth's Critical, but have more to it. Reference.


(will probably make one for hector)

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