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Re: Contoversial Gaming Topics.

Post  JGH27 on Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:20 pm

Sanosukesama wrote:& now apparently 3D Realms is being sued for all their shennanigans, claiming they're working on a product & having nothing to show for it. Check this out too for Zero Punctuation's take on the whole 3D Realms/Duke Nukem Forever business:

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Wow, lmfao

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Post  Serras-Kai on Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:52 pm

Warchamp7 wrote:I don't think the game was anywhere near being released.
I heard it was close.
A lot of -real- screenshots were floating around, and Gameinformer listed it as "games coming in the next issue" just before the company went under.
Got no other evidence, so honestly I have no idea.

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Re: Contoversial Gaming Topics.

Post  Queeny on Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:15 pm

Sanosukesama wrote:& now apparently 3D Realms is being sued for all their shennanigans, claiming they're working on a product & having nothing to show for it. Check this out too for Zero Punctuation's take on the whole 3D Realms/Duke Nukem Forever business:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/748-Duke-Nukem-Forever

I lol'd =^3^=

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Post  Naturi on Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:58 pm

What really grinds my gears about the gaming industy atm is the lack of LGBT PCs. There are little or no LGBT toons in gaming if they are they are usually just side toons

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Post  JGH27 on Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:18 pm

Naturi wrote:What really grinds my gears about the gaming industy atm is the lack of LGBT PCs. There are little or no LGBT toons in gaming if they are they are usually just side toons

LGBT?

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Post  Naturi on Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:37 pm

LGBT is an acronym referring collectively to lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people.












The more you know Razz

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Post  Sanosukesama on Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:49 pm

Naturi wrote:What really grinds my gears about the gaming industy atm is the lack of LGBT PCs. There are little or no LGBT toons in gaming if they are they are usually just side toons

Hrm, the onry game I can really remember is Fear Effect 2, with main character Hana & love interest Rain; here's the Wiki Page as well. Hope it helps~

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Re: Contoversial Gaming Topics.

Post  JGH27 on Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:58 pm

Naturi wrote:LGBT is an acronym referring collectively to lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people.


The more you know Razz

Ahh, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up

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Post  Naturi on Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:27 pm

Though are many hints that games drop (Miles and Phoenix *Cough* *Cough*) that a toon might be, there are few toons which are out of the closet. I think we currently need a protagonist of that type. Like Lara Croft/Samus did for female protagonists

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Post  SurgePox on Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:29 pm

The Sims totally has LGBT characters.

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Re: Contoversial Gaming Topics.

Post  Queeny on Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:07 pm

why is LGBT characters such an' issue..?

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Post  Serras-Kai on Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:16 pm

The main reason I can think of is that developers are afraid that games do include LGBT characters will draw fire from people who will become offended and won't buy the game.
I'd assume there are at least a few games that do include LGBT characters, but they are probably either Japan-only or are censored for American audiences.

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Post  Spontaneous Combustion on Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:20 pm

Iji has a lesbian pair.

But then again, they are aliens.

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Post  Queeny on Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:28 pm

ah. Yeah I can understand that.(to Kai) But really I don't think there is a problem with that.
you know they could always do this in subtle ways.. For instance.

http://www.zelda-fans.com/wp-content/images/_Twilight%20Princess%20new%20artwork%2001.jpg

wouldn't know what would possess someone to wear something like this but hey.. took me by surprise.

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Post  MENTOK the MINDTAKER on Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:59 pm

SurgePox wrote:The Sims totally has LGBT characters.

And Fable, Fable II... if your inclined that way.

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Post  Serras-Kai on Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:13 pm

Queeny wrote:ah. Yeah I can understand that.(to Kai) But really I don't think there is a problem with that.
you know they could always do this in subtle ways.. For instance.

http://www.zelda-fans.com/wp-content/images/_Twilight%20Princess%20new%20artwork%2001.jpg
Meh. I have no problem with it either.
I think that this is actually a good example, though:
these characters are heavily implied to be LGBT, but aren't openly.
...Maybe.

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Re: Contoversial Gaming Topics.

Post  Queeny on Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:01 pm

yeah that's true.. we can't always assume.

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Re: Contoversial Gaming Topics.

Post  Avalanche on Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:47 am

dude.........Birdo

Also heard something about the "Shin Megami Tensei". someone mind explaining to me for as far as I read, it includes everything the US and the media hates about videogames.

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Post  Sanosukesama on Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:45 am

<3 Shin Megami Tensei : D It started off in the late 80s as a kind of 'horror' & suspense kind of book series but when they adapted it into video game form, the series spread out into a bunch of different forms. The original books had lots of jacked up themes, including mind control, rape, torture, horror, dis-membering, murder, and a guy losing his true love, but rescuing her in the end. This was just the beginning, and taking that Atlus created the series Shin Megami Tensei (Mega-Ten for those geek-inclined Razz ) 'umbrella' I guess would be the best way to put it. SMT by itself tends to stay closer to the old Japanese novels & usually deals with the Apocolaypse 'end of the world' stuff, like when the worlds gets destroyed in the SNES incarnation. SMT: Persona for the most part involves high schoolers with super natural powers that are stemmed from the original novels (i.e. they can use demons & angels to assist them with battling). This series is the one I've played the most, and P3: FES is teh shit. Yeah, its a dungeon crawler (one dungeon, 255 floors, grind grind grind) but the characters rock. Cool & they all have issues you'd expect from real life (a father's un-requitted love, not being accepted by your peers, having a crush on someone but they can't return your feelings). Should give it a shot if you've run through all the FFs, and need something else to play, pick up Persona 3: Fes. SMT: Nocturne dealt with the end of the world (which is now called 'The Conception), & the main character you play as influenced how the world would become. Destroy it, rule it, or Eff It & don't care, the game had multiple endings & this guy:
There's also Digital Devil Saga, which instead of swords & magic was set in the future & used more of guns & technology. The premise was kind of like Persona than the other series & was modeled after steam-punk. It still had demons & angels going for it but I haven't really played this entry into the series, just saw some friends playing it so I don't know how heavy they played into the game. Then there's some spin-offs like the upcoming DS SMT title which was at E3, but couldn't find it in the Atlus booth. :/ Any who, I apologize for ranting a bit >.>; The SMT series is great, and yeah, its got some weird stuff, but, its got cool stuff & a deep mythology to it. (Like how Thor, god of Thunder, is actually an agent for God XD How original~)
For more info, there's this as well : Shin Megami Tensei Wiki

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Post  Avalanche on Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:58 am

Haha I am almost sorry for asking after that amount of text :p

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Post  Sanosukesama on Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:34 am

Sorry Razz Please don't let me discourage you from trying out an SMT game though, they're real fun, just....don't forget your sanity on your way out Twisted Evil

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Post  Avalanche on Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:04 am

One question though. Isn't that character along with the massive amount of text Dante? If not, I am pretty sure he wants his character design back.

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Post  Sanosukesama on Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:15 am

That it is! Cool Atlus struck a lil' partnership with Capcom & was able to use Dante in SMT: Nocturne, and after some side quests joins up as one of your party's strongest members
Spoiler:
Storywise, Dante was hired by Satan to kill the main character. But after fighting with the main character a couple of times, Dante comes to his senses and works with you instead of against.
. There's even a joke in the game that denies DMC2 ever happening, and the whole thing was like a dream Dante had ;P (A reference to how crappy the game was & sold).

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Post  Avalanche on Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:33 am

aaah you gotta love 4th wall jokes like that

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Post  Naturi on Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:32 pm

Serras-Kai wrote:
Queeny wrote:ah. Yeah I can understand that.(to Kai) But really I don't think there is a problem with that.
you know they could always do this in subtle ways.. For instance.

http://www.zelda-fans.com/wp-content/images/_Twilight%20Princess%20new%20artwork%2001.jpg
Meh. I have no problem with it either.
I think that this is actually a good example, though:
these characters are heavily implied to be LGBT, but aren't openly.
...Maybe.

Yea there are tonnes that are implied (including my fav Phoenix and Edgeworth Razz) but really no open game with them, if they are openly they are other not the man chariture

Im also surprised that Shadow Hearts did not create a hu har

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