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Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  SuicideAngel on Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:25 pm

Alright then, Game 9 =)

Rules
-There is a 0 PM limit in effect. PM me, only me >=D I can also be reached via Steam (Desparatum)
-All votes and Unvotes MUST be in Bold to be official.
-Don’t run with scissors
-Massroleclaiming, or the demanding of such will result in death. Roleclaiming must be done at one’s own risk.
-Claiming YOUR OWN role Title is also forbidden.
-Don’t swim within 30 minutes after eating.
-Inactivity will result in a Modkill, and replacement if an outside party shows interest.
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-Don’t needlessly pad out rules lists in forum-based Mafia games with rules that are irelivant to the game. …wait a sec o-o;;

Night and Day Phases will be roughly 48 hours each. However, Night phases will end whenever I get all the actions submitted.

Player List
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1. SurgePox
2. Quaetman
3. Weldar
4. Omicron Austin
5. DarkFalco
6. JGH27
7. King Avalanche
8. Raya
9. Ansem
10. Fedaykin
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12. Minby_Aran
13. Relmitos
14. DRTJR
15. Xiaping Spontaneous Combustion
16. Warchamp7
17. smashbro
18. Hudsonboy111
19. Perrytheplatypus
20. td260
21. Viero
22. SnakeInABox


It was the first day of AniCon, the world’s most generic Anime and gaming convention. The guests were chattering excitedly about the latest episodes, and the newest games. The vendors were selling their overpriced novelties to the fan kids. All the events ran as planned, on time and with no technical troubles. A great weekend was had by all and everyone went home happy.

Well, except that one guy that died – he was pretty bummed about the whole experience.
Spoiler:
A random Naruto Cosplayer was killed! The world becomes a little brigher.

...alright I lied - it was a terrible week. Bodies were dropping every night.

A hush ran throughout the crowd as the Administration had the body removed from the expo. “A murder” one whispered. “They said it happened just hours ago” another muttered. “Could it be…?”

“MAFIA!” Someone yelled boldly, breaking the hush, and ushering in more voices to the call. This was no outside hit – it was someone inside the AniCon. Or a group of people - a group of the most evil villains in the history of AniCon. Suspicions rose, friend was pitted against friend. Everyone rose to hear the bell. Let the War of the AniCon… BEGIN!


Day Phase Ends at roughly 10 pm Central Tuesday

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Day 1: Technical Difficulties
No one was Lynched.

Night 1: the Morning Sun has Vanquished the Horrible Night.
No one was killed

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Day 2: What Doesn't Kill you
Omicron Austin Was Lynched.

Night 2: You're All Going To Die Down Here
Weldar, Raya, and SurgePox were killed

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Day 3: Of Cops and Hunters
Warchamp Was saved! Angry Mob Killed a Hunter.

Night 3: Requiem of Spirit
JGH was killed

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Day 4: Vend-Victory!
Avalanche was Lynched. Q has become A Winner.

Night 4: Stranger things have Happened
Fedaykin was Killed. Smash was Saved, Smoker was Killed.

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Day 5: Euthanization
Hudsonboy was Lynched. He became A winner.

Night 5: It was an Awkward Situation
TheTJ was killed. TheTJ killed a Boomer.

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Day 6: So It's Come To This...
DRTJR was lynched.

Night 6: Evil Pays It's Price
Smashbro was killed.

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Day 7: Spoiler Alert!
Warchamp was lynched.

Night 7: And in Silence, there was Chaos
No one was killed.

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Day 8: (Not) Still Alive
td was Lynched.

Night 8: Things Fall Apart
Minby was killed.

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Day 9: Tanks for the Memories
Angry Mob Killed a Tank.

Night 9: Memento Mori
Spont and Falco were killed.

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Day 10: Death to Yaoi!!
Perry was lynched.

Night 10: Five Minutes Remaining
Ansem was killed.

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Day 5: So long, and thanks for all the Kills
Snake and Viero have become Winners!
Game Over


Winners: Q, Hudson, Snake and Viero


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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  DarkFalco on Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:29 pm

hmmm this is going to be an interesting game. BELIEVE IT! Razz

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  SnakeInABox on Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:50 pm

Weldar is Mafian. Calling it nao.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  SurgePox on Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:27 am

Another game starting on the dayphase? Have we learned nothing?

vote:nobody

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Smashy B on Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:49 am

Vote: Nobody

Chances are more likely to hang an innocent, it'd be helping mafia, ect.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Weldar on Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:13 am

SnakeInABox wrote:Weldar is Mafian. Calling it nao.

Yeah that guy has like a 100% chance of being mafia or hostile 3rd party let's just kill him now and get it over with.

Vote: Weldar


Wait I'm not always mafia, I was a cop once.

Unvote: Weldar


Don't kill me dudes I'm a cop, I scanned SurgePox but it failed, he's totally suspicious let's kill him.

Vote: SurgePox


Okay being serious now, more people bandwagoing no lynch day 1, have we learned nothing (of course not no-one listens to me anyway). A day start is still a lot better than a night start, we know only slightly less then we would with a night start. yes the power roles would have had a chance to act but so? There usually aren't many info gathering roles and the odds of them hitting a random mafian night 1 are low and even if they do outing themselves right at the game start just to reveal 1 mafian probably isn't a good idea, in a smaller game where you only have 1 or 2 mafia then sure but here we'd be expecting around 5-ish and it's likely they'd have a role like a roleblocker or some sort of way to get through doctor protection to shut you down. The vast majority of us wouldn't start with much more information than the minimum amount of killing roles in the game and we'd be down a person or two.

I don't mind if we ultimately settle on no lynch but can we at least try to get a bit of discussion going and throw around some votes, watch how people act, rather than just all sheeping on no lynch from the day start. You know, the kind of stuff we do on day 2? Today isn't too different, why not do it now rather than wasting it.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Raya on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:17 am

I'm agreeing with Weldar that starting on a day phase is better, because beginning on a night phase essentially gives the mafia a free kill. It also means one poor player doesn't get the chance to do anything because they died technically before the game started.

Saying that, Weldar is a mighty suspicious target anyway. Although it's random odds each game on what alignment everybody gets, from his track record it seems likely he'd be mafia Laughing

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  TheTJ on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:27 am

Nah, statistically speaking each time Weldar turns out to be mafia, the odds of him being townie the next game go up.

That is, if the roles were randomized...

Also: every single time the day one vote ends up no-one the mafia wins. Essentially, they get to either throw a vote against each other for deniablility later or vote some townie while saying the mafia loves a no-vote (Which I'm kinda doing now, now that I think about it). In any case I'm going to Vote: Perry for right now.

We'll see how it goes from there.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  SurgePox on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:04 am

TheTJ wrote:Nah, statistically speaking each time Weldar turns out to be mafia, the odds of him being townie the next game go up.
No, they're statistically independent events. One outcome has no effect on the next one, his odds of being mafian in a given game are as good as anyone elses.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  TheTJ on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:41 am

Yeeessss..... But when viewed as a string of events rather than 9 seperate cases, the odds of him being mafian would be lower than anyone else.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Weldar on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:49 am

The random number generator doesn't know or care about my past record though. I have a 1/4 - 1/5 chance of being mafia in this game just like anyone else. The odds of me having achieved my streak of being mafia in this first place are indeed low but it happened. However the odds of that streak continuing for another game is still the same as the odds of any other player being mafia.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  TheTJ on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:58 am

I know that the odds of you being mafia this game are the same as anyone elses, but I prefer to look at the odds of the entire streak happening, including this game.

Besides which you have (I'm assuming) much less than a 50% chance anyway, so it'd make less sense to call you out as a mafian than a townie.

Bleh, I'm getting sick of this stupid statistical stuff, I'm not even sure why I said anything in the first place. (Internet Arguement Escape plan #3 in action)

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Weldar on Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:33 am

The odds of an 7 mafia streak happening, 1/1684 (assuming a ratio of 3:1 townies to mafia in each game), indeed quite unlikely. But the odds of me getting such a streak now, 1/4.

Obviously I have a less than 50% chance of being mafia, everyone does. There's always more townies than mafians.

But yes I agree this who discussion is silly, why are we having it? I don't think anyone was actually seriously trying to use this gambler fallacy logic to say I was or wasn't mafia.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Fedaykin on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:14 am

I scanned you the first night last game,because I thought it'd be incredible,if you were mafian again.When you scanned as a traitor,I believed I'd be a paranoid cop or something ^^

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Post  HUDSONBOY111 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:24 am

Vote: Nobody for now. We'll see what happens.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  TD260 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:59 am




I really hope that one of THESE ^ Made it in as a role.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Minby_Aran on Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:09 am

Hmmm, TD, posting that picture is very suspicious... Razz

But in all seriousness, bandwagoning on no-lynch...well, everything about it has been said already, no need to read it twice.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Smashy B on Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:28 am

TheTJ wrote:I know that the odds of you being mafia this game are the same as anyone elses, but I prefer to look at the odds of the entire streak happening, including this game.
I think you're looking it from the statistical POV of the unlikelihood one would have of being mafia on consecutive accounts, which the probability would indeed be a lot less likely than independant cases of a player being mafia.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  TD260 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:49 am

Vote: nobody

why? I just hate that guy.
/previousgamereference

in all seriousness though, we can't determine anything yet. why random lynch? we have a 25-30% chance of getting a mafian with a random lynch- but if we hit a townie, then we have 2 dead townies tomorrow, since the mafia then gets a nightkill. It would take incredible luck to get a mafian, and the end result does not justify the risks we take, of potentially having 2 dead townies.

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Avalanche on Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:54 am

I highly doubt I can change the established trend of voting nobody.

if you can't beat em....

vote nobody

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  DRTJR on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:05 am

I hope this will be a gun blade free event


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Vote:MENTOK

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Fedaykin on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:48 am

Maybe we have to lynch the host this time.Following the logic of Q in Snake's game, I vote:SuicideAngel

better than no vote

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Perry on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:56 am

Vote:nobody

...because i have no idea whats going on, and im not gonna read up on those discussions you guys are having about it to find out XD.

(TJ, why?! ;_Wink

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  TD260 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:29 pm

DRTJR wrote:I hope this will be a gun blade free event


And for old times sake
Vote:MENTOK

Unvote: nobody
Vote: Gunblades

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Re: Mafia Game 9: Mafia at the AniCon

Post  Omicron Austin on Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:39 pm

I still don't get what's wrong with a random lynch.

Statistically, it won't harm nor hurt us; if there are 25% mafians, there's a 25% chance we'll kill one, and 75% chance we'll kill a townie.

That sounds awful, but if it was a random lynch EVERY time, there's a 50% chance townies will win, and 50% chance mafia will win. It may be 3 times more likely to kill a townie, but there are three times as many to kill. Good to go.

However, a night kill from the mafia ENSURES that a townie will die. Obviously, this is bad. A random lynch will balance the odds towards a more even chance of victory; if only nightkills happening would give townies 0% chance of victory, and if nightkills didn't happen (for whatever reason) gives townies 50% chance of victory, then a random lynch plus a nightkill every day would give them 25% chance of victory.

That being said, townies eventually get the advantage of trying to guess who is mafian, making "random" lynches less random, and in turn makes it far more likely than a 25% chance of victory.


In conclusion, a random lynch isn't going to hurt us in any way. But I'm willing to bet a lot of people disagree with me and that I'm not influential enough to change your mind, and most of you have already voted for nobody.

RANDOM VOTE: Avalanche

I used random.org for this.

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