Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Eiron on Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:14 pm

YOU DARE NOT GET THE REFERENCE IN MAH LAIR!? YOU MUST DIE!

I can't find the original, but here ya go. Its close enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOBW-hzlHvk

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Ninja Penguin on Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:07 pm

Old ROBs have gotta be damn expensive now.

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Post  pure_awesome on Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:07 pm

Nah. Old ROBs are like... 50 bucks, usually. Probably because the people who want them just want them for memorabilia or to say, hey, check out what I have, while the people who have them realize that they're boring as sin.

In other news, Ganon is wierd.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Formula1 on Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:24 am

I actually read a really inspiring interpretation about the symbolism in brawl 1player story on ign which makes me want to see the characters...

It goes something (Maybe a different but nonetheless [give or take]) like this...

That Master hand was the little kid in all of us (Used to play with the toys back in the day, and the idea of fighting master hand wasn't that you were fighting evil... but that you were fighting that which you cannot truelly destroy because it actually controls and keeps you alive)
-Crazy hand was meant to represent the "True Evil" as created by ourselves, that which we can't control. However, even crazy hand isn't evil.... he's just crazy..... and is guided still by instincts not too different from master hand.

Tabuu was the the representation of growing up and destroying the peace of mind we had as a kid, the world that was smash bros.
-It is the true destruction, that which actually kills Smashbros and The imagination of the greatest heroes of seperate awesomeness colliding.
--A good example of this was the fact tabuu was more of a 30 to 40 year old man that seem deeply disturbed and consumed by visual beauty (Imaginative beauty ment nothing, its all visual [Also you'll find its a key difference in people. The people that can respect the imagination and those that can't])

ANd the prime minister was the aid to Tabuu (Our Parents which want to do the right thing and send out hordes of other parents to try and destroy our world)
-They are all robots programmed to think a certain way. THey aren't truelly evil, they just so happened to be idiotic enough to listen (whether by choice or by accident)



I would like to see these in.... but maybe as this or that... instead of actual characters....
Just throwing these ideas out there
1) Master Hand would be a sort of God Character-A Church or hospital (A place that represents yourself and God)
2) Crazy hand would be a Gambling Joint or a Bowling alley, or a Bar. Or an Arcade.... Yeah... an Arcade.... (a place where you have everything you could ever want.... complete happiness..... yet...... its in a way that isn't true freedom.... but you don't care....
3) Tabuu would be a Strip joint where people feel pressured to go rather then really want to go. Or A Temp Job Company that is run by pit. (Growing up, and losing touch with your Freelance Dr Mario roots. Going on others schedules)
4) Prime Minister would be a book of proverbs. (Robots forcing you to become something you are not)


I realized THe characters are really awesome once you read between the lines once I read that post.
Each character themselves are a representation of the people inside each of us. We have them all and can call on different ones on different occasions. But sometimes we have to adapt and use weaker characters against stronger enemies.

Gannondorf-When you are just going to try and get whatever you want (A baby with power)
Jiggly Puff-When you are just a happy little thing and want to entertain everyone
Marth-Seeking to be an Expert of combat
Ike-Seeking to get everything out of the way
etc (I may not have gotten it right, but you get the idea)

Each characters story is also a part of the motivations of life

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Gorblax on Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:44 am

Whoa, lotta lurkers crawling out of the woodwork for this one.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Eiron on Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:30 am

Formula1, thanks for bringing that analysis up. I've always wondered what Tabuu was supposed to represent, and I think that's exactly it. Knowing that now, I think I would like to see some sort of reference to him.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Gorblax on Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:10 am

Yeah, although the other stuff may be stretching it a bit, I'm inclined towards the Master/Crazy/Tabuu representations.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Relmitos on Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:30 pm

Whoa........don't look at the forums for the weekend, and look what happens. There's pretty much nothing left to say on this topic because everyone else already said it. All I can really say is, I support the master/crazy hand, tabuu ideas.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  SurgePox on Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:40 pm

"The Crazy Hand" Would be an awesome name for a bowling alley.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Smashy B on Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:49 pm

SurgePox wrote:"The Crazy Hand" Would be an awesome name for a bowling alley.
Massage parlor.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  pure_awesome on Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:02 pm

Crazy Hands: The World's ONLY Competitive Patty-Cake League.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  SurgePox on Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:07 pm

Crazy Hands (possibly Master Hands) should be a masturbation addict reform group.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Relmitos on Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:17 pm

SurgePox wrote:Crazy Hands (possibly Master Hands) should be a masturbation addict reform group.

No no, Crazy hands. Master Hand, imo, was definitely the more dominant presence between the two and should have a bit more impressive/elegant of an appearance.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  SurgePox on Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:21 pm

^Good point. That's why I ask.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Smashy B on Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:22 pm

Relmitos wrote:
SurgePox wrote:Crazy Hands (possibly Master Hands) should be a masturbation addict reform group.

No no, Crazy hands. Master Hand, imo, was definitely the more dominant presence between the two and should have a bit more impressive/elegant of an appearance.
Master hand would make more sense with masterbation. LOL, put that in

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Relmitos on Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:25 pm

"My name is Bate! I am now your Master!" "So.....your MasterBate?"

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Gameorama91 on Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:38 pm

I take it since you're asking, they aren't important to the story as of yet huh? I had a thought that Tabuu would end up being the murderer in the end to go with Brawl, but oh well. Don't think they would fit in that well, but yes, give them a cameo, you've made so many in just Episode 1, I'm sure you'll think of something awesome for them.

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Post  StarWolf on Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:13 pm

The Crazy Hand should be a casino.

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Post  zach also rises on Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:14 pm

Formula dude, I think that's a little over the top.

However, crazy hand is pretty sweet.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Eiron on Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:56 pm

I dunno, I think he nailed it on the head. The openings for the two other Smash games started in a child's bedroom (64), and with the hand of a child bringing statues to life to do battle (Melee). The Master and Crazy Hand trophies state that they are the embodiement of creation and destructive impulses, respectively. Think of a child happily making a sandcastle. That's Master Hand. Now think of the child gleefully kicking it down, Godzilla style. That's Crazy Hand. Tabuu is the adult who can't be bothered to get down and play with dolls or statues, or make sand castles.

So, Tabuu is the older, less creative entity whose obsessed with raw power and beuatiful appearances, kind of like.....

HOLY FUCK.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  SurgePox on Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:09 pm

I think that his analysis is reading into it a bit too much for what this project is all about. Even though there was a lot of meaning behind those characters, this project has more to do with the classic elements of the nintendo franchises.

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Eiron on Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:18 pm

Probably. I wasn't sure whether he meant the idea in general, or its application to TWBB. And I was kinda excited. OMG the lame story actually had meaning!?

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Smashy B on Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:11 am

Eiron wrote:I dunno, I think he nailed it on the head. The openings for the two other Smash games started in a child's bedroom (64), and with the hand of a child bringing statues to life to do battle (Melee). The Master and Crazy Hand trophies state that they are the embodiement of creation and destructive impulses, respectively. Think of a child happily making a sandcastle. That's Master Hand. Now think of the child gleefully kicking it down, Godzilla style. That's Crazy Hand. Tabuu is the adult who can't be bothered to get down and play with dolls or statues, or make sand castles.

So, Tabuu is the older, less creative entity whose obsessed with raw power and beuatiful appearances, kind of like.....

HOLY FUCK.
Like Hitler?

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  Eiron on Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:19 am

I was actually thinking of a PS3/360 vs. Wii scenario. Shocked

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Re: Question: Original Brawl characters: Who cares?

Post  SurgePox on Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:48 am

Eiron wrote:I was actually thinking of a PS3/360 vs. Wii scenario. Shocked
Explain.

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