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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  JohnnyFarrar on Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:07 am

Alive people:

4: Avos Me Lardo
6. Fedaykin
9: Perrytheplatypus
10: Ansem
13. TJ
14. Requiem
16. Quaetam
18. Johnny
20. Viero
21. Smashbro

People I'm pretty sure are town: Perry, Requiem, myself, Viero

People that are likely town: Ansem, Smashbro

That leaves Avos, Fed, TJ, and Q.

Expect posts analyzing those four when I get home.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  nn8n on Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:36 am

JohnnyFarrar wrote:Alive people:

4: Avos Me Lardo
6. Fedaykin
9: Perrytheplatypus
10: Ansem
13. TJ
14. Requiem
16. Quaetam
18. Johnny
20. Viero
21. Smashbro

People I'm pretty sure are town: Perry, Requiem, myself, Viero

People that are likely town: Ansem, Smashbro

That leaves Avos, Fed, TJ, and Q.

Expect posts analyzing those four when I get home.

Let me throw my list up here:

Alive people:

4: Avos Me Lardo
6. Fedaykin
9: Perrytheplatypus
10: Ansem
13. TJ
14. Requiem
16. Quaetam
18. Johnny
20. Viero
21. Smashbro

People I'm pretty sure are town: Perry, Viero

People that are likely town: Fed

People I'm suspicious of: Ansem, Q

That leaves unconfirmed: Avos, TJ, Johnny, Smash, and Requeim.

Ansem: He was just down right mean to Outlaw last phase, only thing we know is today he said that things shouldn't have worked if he had been targeted for a bus? Skill immunity? Possible Nexus GF?

Q: I already stated my reasons, less active possible GF immune to scans.

Avos: Well I haven't left you with much, I have an ability that is unprovable and not very explainable and could be either sided. I have defended Dark Falco before, but I did lead the Lynch toward Raya (Even though I did not stick with it, People probably wouldn't have looked at her if I hadn't started it first.)

TJ: Not much from him, he only has about 4 post total.

Johnny: Nothing is known, no claim, bad trap in the beginning killing Spont, then backing away the rest of the game. Edit: Now that I think of it, putting yourself on 'likely town' isn't proving anything and makes me think you more scummy!

Smash: Sure he subbed for Kailoli, but Kailoli could have possibly been scum and not wanting to be active to not give us leads. Then smashbro takes over and like Ansem was totally against Outlaw last phase, sure he didn't vote for him but threw around his suspicions anyways.

Then Requiem, he claimed a randomized ability based on his game performance, this doesn't say 'town' to me at all, it's an ability that could go either way, and lets not forget his scummy voteshift day 1 to finalize Sponts demise.


Last edited by Avos Me Lardo on Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:47 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Durp, pay attention Avos)

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Fedaykin on Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:41 am

About Johnny, I'm backing him up too. Johnny's town.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  nn8n on Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:46 am

Oh...yeah...durp!

Only three others vouching for him.

Then my list looks like this:

People I'm pretty sure are town: Perry, Viero

People that are likely town: Fed, Johnny

People I'm suspicious of: Ansem, Q

That leaves unconfirmed: Avos, TJ, Smash, and Requeim

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Smashy B on Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:36 am

First unvote: Fedaykin because your explanation about trying to bus a night kill onto two targets if you were mafia makes sense so I'm backing off.

Second, Johnny, why do you think Requiem is town? He was another on my suspicion list.

Last, if this last mafia is the godfather, can we still trust scans? Wouldn't be surprised if Viero had a minigame that would allow him to see through a godfather disguise.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Fedaykin on Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:06 am

Thanks, smash. unvote

I just reread the nightkill and it appears to me, that DF hit a granny? She did go to her target after all, but got eliminated herself. Weird stuff.

Also Ansem, please excuse my curiosity, what does your power exactly do? Also did anything happen to you? Still trying to figure out, how Viero was blocked. I mean, essentially, I scrambled every action done to him onto you, so he was never directly in contact with you *scratches head*

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Requiem on Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:42 am

Wheeeeeee! I didn't get a power to use last night, but assuming I survive through the day, things will be interesting tomorrow. I've made my way to the high roller's suite. Gonna party and maybe invite some people to come hang out. Also, Vote: Ansem If I'm wrong, I'll correct it overnight.

For those that are not sure what I'm talking about, I've picked up the ability to revive people, every other night phase with three charges, as well as my typical power. Which means that I'll be reviving people and bombing myself continuously. I can openly state this because the mafia only has limited numbers left making the risk of hitting a bomb to be too risky.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Vivian Vex on Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:53 am

Voting for Kyle by using the logic that he is godfather is not a good move. ANYONE could be godfather. There is a 9% chance that I have hit a mafia don in any of my scans. Do you really want to trust those odds? That is of course assuming there even is a mafian don.

UNVOTE: FED

Everything today made you seem a lot less scummy

My list

Town: Kyle, Perry, Req (if he can prove his power) and myself

People I think are town: Ansem, Fed

People I think are mafia: TJ, Avos

Not sure yet: Smash, Johnny

I forgot to mention last night that my scan was on Avos. Not sure if that means anything to you guys or not but it is worth noting.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  JohnnyFarrar on Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:57 am

YOUR POWERS STACK?!

I originally had Requiem as likely town because I believed his claim. Now I'm thinking he may be a third party leader. That's a pretty powerful role. Just kind of ridiculous.

PEDIT: Wait, Viero vouched for Q, didn't he? Yeah, I'll add him to my town list.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  JohnnyFarrar on Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:08 am

I think we're in a good position here.

Vote: TJ

He's one of my few unknowns and he's virtually unreadable due to low activity. What little activity he has exhibited is either null (voting DRTJR) or mildly bad (voting Outlaw).

So yeah.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Fedaykin on Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:29 am

Thing with TJ, I wouldn't be surprised if he was up for a modkill soon.

Also at this stage, woah Req. That almost sounds like town-instawin. Ok, there is a radical plan forming in my mind.

Req, the revive is a nightaction?

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Requiem on Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:31 am

Only this time. It's the result of me pulling a royal flush as my hand, so unless I pull a royal flush continuously (And seriously, what are the odds of that happening?), I don't think we have to worry about my role being too powerful. Originally I was just going to have it be a full town revive, but because of the number of dead town, it would have been too broken. This was my second option. My third suggestion that I hadn't given was to have me an autorevive after death. Also, how would a third party leader be applicable here? I just gained this power. There have been no revives prior to this, and not a single one of the dead players flipped as anything outside of town, scum, or self aligned. If you really don't trust me though, have Vie scan me overnight. I don't think a bomb will kill anyone unless they attempt to kill them. This is the list of my abilities based by hand. I have the option to fold and take a lower hand than what I have, hence why I can bomb myself regardless.

High Card: Bomb
Pair: Tracker
Two Pair: Death Speaker/Reviver
Three of a kind: Minor Lightning Rod (I can select someone to be a lightning rod, but only some actions will be diverted to them, out of my knowledge)
Four of a kind: Unlynchable/Unkillable for one Phase Cycle
Straight: Doc
Flush: Role Nullifier
Full House: Vig
Straight Flush: Jailer
Royal Flush: Whatever

Night One as we discussed, I pulled a Pair. This late in the game I'll just say it, I tracked Johnny who was found interacting with Spont (I think it was Spont anyway, I'd have to check to be sure).
Night Two I just had a high card.
Night Three I don't recall what I had, but I self bombed anyway.
Night Four I pulled a Royal Flush which allows me to pick whatever powers I want within reason, hence the revival thing.

I'll be honest, I've only really been half playing this game as I've been distracted with living at a new house, trying to get myself situated, and with the new job, so yeah. There you have it, a full readout of my night actions and the explanation for my kind of odd behaviour.

And Yeah Fed, everything I have is night action based.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Fedaykin on Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:43 am

So for three nights, provided you live, the lynch will be a public scan with the benefit of mafians staying dead.

So, who would best be cleared from the players left alive?

Also holy crap, you're lucky at your cards!

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  DarkFalco on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:10 pm

damn and i was doing quite well for myself too....oh well

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Smashy B on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:13 pm

Vivivi-vi Vi-vivi wrote:Voting for Kyle by using the logic that he is godfather is not a good move. ANYONE could be godfather. There is a 9% chance that I have hit a mafia don in any of my scans. Do you really want to trust those odds?
If it were me, I'd have scanned the godfather night 1 because I have terrible luck. However, I don't think we need to worry about the possibility that you scanned a godfather at this point.

For what it's worth, here's my list.

Town: Viero, Perry, Quaetam, Johnny

Probably town (AKA people I'm backing off of because they claimed): Requiem, Fedaykin

Could be mafia: Avos, TJ, Ansem, Smashy B

Yeah, I put myself where I did, because I don't have much going for me. I swear I'm town, but how do any of you know? I am trying to communicate with the jailor, but sending messages through the game mod kinda hinders things a little.

Avos, if it means anything, and it probably doesn't, I also said that I was willing to believe that outlaw was town.

My feeling towards Avos and Ansem is indifferent. I think that Avos's skepticism towards Viero's cop scans is a healthy skepticism and Ansem was early to vote Raya. So I'm left with TheTJ, and once again I'll be that second guy to place a vote on someone. Vote: TheTJ

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Perry on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:15 pm

He isn't lucky. Last nightphase was "Lady Luck". Everyone had their powers supercharged.

We can mostly count on TheTJ being modkilled soon, so we shouldn't waste a lynch on him.

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Post  nn8n on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:52 pm

If we are going to talk about who should be modkilled next, it would be Q. TheTJ has twice as many post and in more recent phases than Q.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Requiem on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:56 pm

The only issue with that Fed, is that it's only every other night, not just the next three. Those off nights are still risky, and the player roster is relatively small. We still can't afford to just kill people because I can revive them. Also, with Vie's Scan not working, there's a chance of a roleblocker, so I may be blocked.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Vivian Vex on Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:14 pm

It doesn't matter if Kyle is inactive yes. But he is not a mafia. TJ is unaccounted for AND has been inactive.

Relm, when will TJ die. And if so will it be at the end of the day or the end of the night. Because if he is not going to be modkilled soon. Which I don't even fucking know why he is still alive at this point along with some others. I want him to die.

VOTE: TJ

If TJ is going to be modkilled I will switch off TJ.

The mafia has been shit this game. Lets just vote off the most suspicious as we have a pretty good list of who should be on the chopping block the following days.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  nn8n on Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:23 pm

Thoughts on a couple of things that went down on last nights phase.

Dark Falco was Mafia, Fed uses a bus on Vie and Ansem. Everyone said that it looks like Dark Falco was killed in a granny-ish way. Dark Falco goes to kill Vie but hits Ansem who ends up killing her.

Vie goes to scan Avos, Avos uses his ability on Vie, scan must have re-directed off of Avos onto Vie giving him a no scan. (This will only make sense in the Post Game results.)
Other scenario for Vie's scan not to work, someone Role-blocked toward Ansem, but got bused to Vie.

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Vivian Vex on Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:27 pm

Avos Me Lardo wrote:Thoughts on a couple of things that went down on last nights phase.

Dark Falco was Mafia, Fed uses a bus on Vie and Ansem. Everyone said that it looks like Dark Falco was killed in a granny-ish way. Dark Falco goes to kill Vie but hits Ansem who ends up killing her.

Which would clear Ansem.

Avos Me Lardo wrote:Vie goes to scan Avos, Avos uses his ability on Vie, scan must have re-directed off of Avos onto Vie giving him a no scan. (This will only make sense in the Post Game results.)

So you use a power that redirects stuff onto me?

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Fedaykin on Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:34 pm

To understand the theory here, you'd actually tell us what your power is. Mindcontrol?

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Re: Mafia Game 23 - Hunters vs. Arkz at the Casino Voloyal, Game over, Hunters win

Post  Quaetam on Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:31 pm

Still working on my tech memo, will post something more substantive later, but I have two points I'd like to add:

First, I can back Fedaykin's claim. Before the game Relmitos asked me how I'd buff a busdriver if it got lucky, and I gave him this exact proposal as a solution. This doesn't mean he's necessarily townie, but the way he described the triple-bus exactly matches what I'd given Relmitos, so I believe him.

Second, I caused the misdirection of everyone's actions last night. I'm a town scrambler, capable of causing my target to hit someone random at night. I bet on two horses in a race, if they win, I become a lightning rod, capable of forcing everyone to target a given person.

Given my suspicions of Fedaykin yesterday, I chose to put the lightning rod on Fed, and see if I could get him killed, or more likely, scanned. This caused a lot of the misdirection you guys are experiencing.

Also, could someone enlighten me as to how Johnny and Requiem are cleared? Those two were high on my shitlist.

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Post  TheTJ on Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:39 pm

OK, this is getting a bit ridiculous. With all the drivers, magnets, redirects and scramblers out there... I don't know if there's a way to really trust you cop scans Viero. I'm not saying throw them out, but take them with a small pile of salt.

I know it's almost moot to point out that have I haven't been absent, but simply busy (Seriously, I have 16 hour days sometimes and today is turning out to be one of them with a break in the middle) but I would like to say that I do read the thread and keep up when I can. This sometimes happens at night so...

I'm just piping up to defend myself a little bit before I head out again. Another, newer, better post to follow.

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Post  Smashy B on Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:15 pm

Perrytheplatypus wrote:He isn't lucky. Last nightphase was "Lady Luck". Everyone had their powers supercharged.I didn't mean lucky in therms of this game, I was (vaguely) referencing to game 3.

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